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Didn't know about the $130,000 payoff, or the $150,000 whatever from ami. that's what this is about, it's not whether he had an affair or not. >> i don't think that -- again, if this is a news story that again, as you guys have all pointed out, this is masterful -- just deviating from substance, let's focus on the substance, that's what really matters. the fact that harvard university -- >> substance, that's what i'm asking you about. >> no. >> if there are questionable legal affairs with the president, or campaign finance laws that were broken, that's substance, don't you think? >> there is n...

Role in our national security apparatus, pompeo will give it a bigger voice in the oval office. this is a net positive for the president to make that change. now he's got the right team, pompeo and haley, two people that have his confidence. >> one bit of breaking news as it comes to the cabinet makeup now. some speculation that the va secretary david shulkin may be on the way out, not by his choice. and that secretary of energy rick perry might be the replacement. rick perry is testifying on capitol hill and he just said he has no interest in becoming the veterans affairs secretary. not sure ...

He's been hit over the lack of diversity in some of his cabinet picks. is this an attempt to quell some of that criticism? >> it's hard to know at this point because kellyanne conway made the point this morning, some of these people are job interviews and some who are speaking to donald trump. now, tulsi just recently issued a statement saying she was there to talk about syria and her belief there should not be intervention in syria. and regime overthrow. at this point she didn't indicate there was any sort of job offer or job interview. so, we're just going to have to sort of follow this as h...

Transition, president-elect trump's transition is gearing towards offering romney that position of secretary of state or is it simply too early at this point? >> reporter: i think it's too early until this meeting had occurred. the guidance we had been given was that the president-elect wanted to have mitt romney here, and obviously mitt romney agreed to come for them to have a conversation that by my watch, romney arrived more than an hour and a half ago, so perhaps they met for a good portion of that. we'll wait to get specifics. but this was a chance for a bit of the speculation game to pla...

These crashes are extremely rare and air travel has never been safer and as you point out, it is safer to fly than it is to drive to the airport. >> well the speculation game is always distressing but it is understandable why people want it is never helpful. taking you back to malaysia air 370, that was not how to run an investigation, and we heard the jet went up and down and turned course and we still don't know other than it took off and made a turn and we still know nothing about it. and the speculation is something experts try to avoid and certainly those in the french ntsb and the faa. t...