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This wasn't a kind of speech that michelle obama would give about her husband. it was about what she would do if she was first lady. she was a bit of a character witness for her husband. but spouses very often, particularly at this point on the campaign trail are much more personal about their husbands and one thing we've noticed about the family is that they have difficulty telling, sort of, personal stories about donald trump. and i think that would have been quite effective if melania had done some more of that. >> it is also tough for someone who doesn't have the experience. >> absolutely....

He is can get 5,000 or 6,000. that's very very rare. >> it may be too early it about worrying where the votes are coming from. not too early to worry about the money. the big donors, what do they want to see their guy, the rubio donors, the jeb bush donors, the chris christie donors. what do they want to see their guy do or in the case of carlie foreignna, their gal do? they want top see them take on trump or to develop their own campaign? >> well, there is a huge gamble in that developing one's own campaign in the shadow of trump means you can just disappear in relative security. three weeks ...

Back, to stop the advances on ukraine. i think president obama's speech was one of the best ones in recent. let's such a good speech maker. he spends so much time meeting and greeting and shaking hands with those people that really choke all of us up, the sacrifice that those men made 70 years ago is beyond almost human imagination to even compute what they went through. he called normandy democracy's beachhead and he called these beaches from utah all the way up, those five beaches that were critical on d-day. he said that this was that tiny sliver of sand on which the entire course of human ...

Culture in a way that's positive. and, you know, talk to girls about academics and talk to them about being entrepreneurs. >> not her role to be a speech maker. do i agree she does have enough talent to do it another way. ebony, the point here is this, that your people in america are influence bade entertainment. no question about it. study after study after study. monday a psychiatrist is going to come in and back that up. put out other mainstream stuff. she chooses not to. time magazine thinks that's terrific and you say? time magazine got it right in terms of her influence. even, ms. nance ...

Picture that one. i always appreciated it. the democratic congressman frank pallone. we have andrea with wnyc radio and covering new jersey politics for years and is now a professor. so thanks a, everybody, for joining us. this question of all the world knows of kim guadagno is about 25 seconds of a very stilted, scripted statement she read on monday and everybody has been trying to dissect it since then. jim, we'll start with you. what should people know about kim guadagno? >> first of all, it's a little troubling because the thought that the governor's office, if they did, sent up as a hardb...