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Her out? where is the evidence of the september 9th phone call? did it really ever happen? certainly you want to provide that. it is the only thing that has this president saying things that are not damning. so where is it? rick perry, one of the so-called three amigos, the energy secretary who just left. what did the president tell you he wanted in ukraine? mick mulvaney, double duty as the head of omb. boy, isn't that convenient? why did this political appointee hijack the money, take the ability to do the job from mark sandy and others, who were appointed to do it, who did that and started ...

Certainly you want to provide that. it is the only thing that has this president saying things that are not damning. so where is it? rick perry, one of the so-called three amigos, the energy secretary who just left. what did the president tell you he wanted in ukraine? mick mulvaney, double duty as the head of omb. boy, isn't that convenient? why did this political appointee hijack the money, take the ability to do the job from mark sandy and others, who were appointed to do it, who did that and started to overtake the process of when it would go to ukraine. why? and what in the world was the ...

>> sondland never mentioned this other call. i believe in his testimony, he said he couldn't remember there were one or two calls with him and the president. but correct me if i'm wrong, he never mentioned this other call at the dinner that now -- that ambassador taylor referenced one of his aides heard. >> that's right. what's so interesting is you have the president saying well, i really don't know much about the gentleman, except that he gave this gentleman his personal cell phone number and evidently ambassador sondland has him on speed dial. there was probably at least six phone conversat...

We hear this now, third, fourth, fifth-hand. >> first of all, hearsay is like circumstantial evidence. and in most crimes, it's circumstantial evidence that actually solves the crime. and we also have this summary of the president's phone conversation, and then we have his actions afterwards. and now we evidently have mr. sondland talking to the president in which the president says how about the investigation. so it's pretty straight forward. >> sondland never mentioned this other call. i believe in his testimony, he said he couldn't remember there were one or two calls with him and the presi...

Schools are good, golf courses got the landscape and churches are more ubiquitous than starbucks. >> there's not a lot of crime in the area. it's a good place to raise a family. >> reporter: but travel east a hundred miles or so, you enter the piney woods of east texas. jobs are not as plentiful here and some keep bonds bailsmen on speed dial. >> there's a lot of drugs there. >> reporter: and those two worlds collided in a most unlike live way. this is the story of that summer, when money seemed to fall like ticker tape on the piney woods and an affluent carrollton family experienced the kind ...