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Don't want to do that so that's why we're trying another idea here, and on tuesday we'll pass the bill in congress which is cut cap and balance and we're proposing to cut spending, to have the spending limits, spending caps going forward, so an amount over which you, the government can't spend more money and have a balanced budget amendment. so, now, i would hope that the democratic colleagues will not just immediately reject this, but look at it. if you think we cut too much. propose a different number. if you think our spending caps are too low, tell us what kind of spending cap you might ac...

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>>neil: thank you very much. we are following a couple of other developments. and that concerns how far does the state go in this case? how far does wisconsin go? here with some thoughts on that, we have wisconsin senator johnson joining us. very different between the vigilance the states are showing, senator, versus what seems to be anything but, from washington. getting different reads here. >>guest: first of all most states have a constitutional requirement to balance the budget and that is what the governor is up against. he must ball the budget. and he is facing a $3.6 billion deficit ove...

Show. jenna: just give it a try! we'll see what happens. as you just heard, house republicans right now are taking an axe to government spending but they certainly can't do that alone, they're going to need help from the senate if anything is to actually come of this. senator ron johnson is the newly elected republican of wisconsin, in his first term in office and joins us now live. senator, who are you sitting with tonight? >> actually i'll be sitting with my fellow senator from the state of wisconsin, senator cole. jenna: you already have that part arranged and now we have to talk about th...

We are bankrupting this nation, and for us, that's certainly what we ought to use that moment for, to establish that hard spending cap. once we've done that, then congress is going to be forced to prioritize spending, and that's when the real games begin. jenna: so the house has been talking about rolling back discretionary spending to levels of 2008, and maybe even lower than that. can we use that same model when we talk about cutting spending for entitlements, can we say we'll roll back entitlement spend to go a certain year or time period? >> first of all what i'd like to do is put entitlem...