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Deductions and that sort of thing, what would you think? >>guest: i don't think he will agree to a rate hike. what you are looking at is closing loopholes and limiting deductions and getting revenue from growth combined with entitlement reform and better spending control. >>neil: if it is a rate hike you would not be for that because the president argued earlier this week he doesn't think the numbers are there to get as much from closing loopholes, allowances and the rest than a simple hike in the rate? >>guest: the reality is to get revenue, you need economic growth and by raising rates you h...

Nothing is agreed bone the government shuts down? >> what more is likely to happen congress could pass another short term stopgap continuing resolution until such time as there is agreement on a longer term continuing resolution. if nothing happens, correct. >> greta: what does it mean for us? >> it mass opinion a while since it happened. for -- it has been a while since it happen. most americans want to see first and foremost is spending reductions. they want the government to get spending control. i don't think they are talking about a shutdown is in the cards. we have an opportunity to addr...

Nothing is agreed bone the government shuts down? >> what more is likely to happen congress could pass another short term stopgap continuing resolution until such time as there is agreement on a longer term continuing resolution. if nothing happens, correct. >> greta: what does it mean for us? >> it mass opinion a while since it happened. for -- it has been a while since it happen. most americans want to see first and foremost is spending reductions. they want the government to get spending control. i don't think they are talking about a shutdown is in the cards. we have an opportunity to addr...

Joining us is brian sullivan. what do you make of this talk that we've got to stop everything, no spending on everything, got to shut it down, how is it going to work. >> reporter: the republicans need to get in line with this as well. we know on the house side it looks pretty good, on the senate side there are still some debates. the republican from oklahoma says we should not prevent all earmarks next year because then that would give the president almost 100% spending control if congress takes itself out of it. yes, it's a big deal, but i tell you what, the republican party has not even ali...