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Of spending and even the impact of the sequester is something that you've taken on, on twitter and elsewhere where you're talking about sequester this. you've identified lots of areas where spending can be cut. and this is where you disagree with the president who thinks that ultimately the sequester is going to have economic harm, that there's no way around it. >> well, you know, that's just a difference of opinion. we need to give the president and his administration some flexibility with the sequester. but i've spent eight years looking at every spending item in the federal government, and ...

Revenues in 2013 as the economics have already shown, the economists have already shown. so the bottom line is this. what can we do to bring spending under control? we've spent it. we have record revenue this year. it's already been taxed. now it's time to reduce spending and get this country growing economically again. >> senator coburn, this question of spending and even the impact of the sequester is something that you've taken on, on twitter and elsewhere where you're talking about sequester this. you've identified lots of areas where spending can be cut. and this is where you disagree wit...

He or she doesn't want to spend money on, but then congress has to act. >> so it goes back to congress? that's the big difference? >> it's called expedited procedure. it means it has to come up to vote. as paul said it's an up-or-down vote on this item of spending they have said, the president said we don't need. it means a lot of members will think twice up front before they ask for a spending item that they don't think they can defend under the full light of day. >> it sounds like a really good idea. let me go to you since your house runs the house of representatives right now. this parallel...

He or she doesn't want to spend money on, but then congress has to act. >> so it goes back to congress? that's the big difference? >> it's called expedited procedure. it means it has to come up to vote. as paul said it's an up-or-down vote on this item of spending they have said, the president said we don't need. it means a lot of members will think twice up front before they ask for a spending item that they don't think they can defend under the full light of day. >> it sounds like a really good idea. let me go to you since your house runs the house of representatives right now. this parallel...

With the tea party pressuring republicans to make big cuts in those programs, as one democratic aide put it, they painted themselves into a corner. the obama budget, though fully detailed as all presidential budgets are, is only a negotiating tool which leaves republicans now asking themselves do they really want to go first on proposing specific cuts to social security and medicare when only 13% of americans support cuts to social security, and only 21% support cuts to medicare. joining me now, utah congressman jason chaffetz. thanks for joining me. >> thank you. >> the government has to choo...