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Budget. and then this, this is what that clean cr is shockingly close to, the 2014 ryan budget of $966 billion, the ryan budget. >> this year's ryan budget turns out looks like last year's ryan republican budget. i wasn't the only one that said gee whiz, not again. >> there are many reasons to oppose the ryan budget. paul ryan's budget is march madness. >> okay, the very thing that the president of the united states ran against when he won re-election, that is the ryan budget. so the spending level that democrats have already agreed to, that they are begging republicans please to accept is ess...

There's no difference on the spending level. why do the democrats object to this continuing resolution? because it takes away -- it us is spends for a year forcing people to buy an health insurance policy they don't. that's what the senate democrats are going to have to stand on. politically they have ended up in a good place later than they might otherwise have been. >> let me push back here. there are many moderate members we're hearing from capitol hill that don't think that their staff should have to feel the pain here according to one member who asked not to be identified, they, the tea p...

>> you know if you said to them, they would say we think this is a disaster because it is hurting businesses. it is causing businesses to go from full-time jobs to part-time jobs so they can get out from under health care. >> it is an excuse. it is not a reason. it is an excuse, it is not a reason. now for the 42nd time this week, they voted to defund -- one approach or another, defund the affordable care act. they know it's not going any place. instead of spending the time of congress to reach an agreement on -- now, this is a wolf in wolf's clothing. it's two nos do not make a yes. on the ot...

See new ones each day arising, it putters out on its own? >> that's the idea, that's the plot so to speak, that john boehner has been trying to figure out a way that the people who are under pressure from home to take another vote to defund or stop or something else obama care can go ahead and do that, and then there still winds up being no shutdown. i think that's the way the story ends. i think there won't be a shutdown over at least the continuing resolution, because privately the white house has pretty much agreed to the spending level. it's all a question of stripping out the obama care s...

Want the government shut down. and they don't want obama care. >> the house has listened to the american people. now it's time for the united states senate to listen to them as well. >> right now the debate that's going on in congress is not meeting the test of helping middle class families. it's just they're not focused on you. they're focused on politics. they're focused on trying to mess with me. >> let's get some more now with our chief political correspondent, the host of state of the union, candy crowley, and our chief political analyst, gloria borger. let me play a clip from your interv...