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Buildup. >> correct. paul: what is this going to do going forward to the republican credibility on spending and deficits? >> tremendous a amount of damage. the president is saying elect me, reelect me, and i'll take care of this spending problem. paul: there's leaking at the white house that the cuts are coming after the election. >> they're playing the public for fools. i think it's an argument for the sequester, otherwise they have no discipline. paul: when you say sequester, you mean the automatic spending hammer that comes down if they would exceed certain limits. you know what they did as...

Buildup. >> correct. paul: what is this going to do going forward to the republican credibility on spending and deficits? >> tremendous a amount of damage. the president is saying elect me, reelect me, and i'll take care of this spending problem. paul: there's leaking at the white house that the cuts are coming after the election. >> they're playing the public for fools. i think it's an argument for the sequester, otherwise they have no discipline. paul: when you say sequester, you mean the automatic spending hammer that comes down if they would exceed certain limits. you know what they did as...

Have the largest debt we ever had in our country's history. i think we really have a spending problem. i think the debt deal that you alluded to really highlights that fact. you know, if president barak obama signed a deal like that. >> of course. >> the fact that there has been an eerie silence as the president says it is good to go. one, all things in elected office in washington seem to revolve around president trump if you are a republican office holder, and two, the degree to which there has been a real morphing, at least at the elected level as what republicans are about. i think it is a...

Home. >> martha: he was very upset about the passing of this bill and the norm is not -- i heard him say earlier today that ronald reagan talked in his speech in a year that they racked up $100 million in the deficit and now we do that on a daily basis, $100 million. where are the people in the republican party who care about this? >> i think you see two of them standing right here. the challenge is that elections have consequences. so the president wants to rebuild the military. it's a big part of his plan. he needs two years to do it. if we go without a budget agreement, without an appropria...

Addressing this spending problem. and the way that we're no longer as republicans talking about debt and deficit issues that to your point we used to talk about a whole lot and we occasionally used to do something about. and so, again, i'm going to get hit by, you know, the folks that are the chairman of the party and others who sort of circle the wagons. but i think that there are a lot of folks out there that are thinking in their approach that would say, yeah, we need to have a conversation on this and if this campaign or this advocacy group helps do that, i'm now on skblord you've taken hi...