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Alternatives. let me talk about the one state really pushed through a terrific pension reform, probably the best in the country. but if you loo tk at other states where the democratic coalition is dominant, illinois for example, new york state and california you can see a very different policy mix. which direction are they going? >> their policy mix is to mirror what is happening in washington. do not address any of the structural spending problems. continue to add spending and then ask your taxpayers, the healthier of the taxpayers to contribute more money.-- one of the problems these states ...

With the president. >> no, no, knee no, listen. i did not say that. nobody ought to read anything into this. we've got differences, but the country has got big spending problems and we've got to get serious about addressing them. >> this isn't the first time that something like this has happened during talks with the president. why you should have faith that when you negotiate with him -- >> listen the president knows that i've already been able to deliver on any promise that i've made with him. the concern that i had is that time was running short. and the idea of the taxes ought to go up on ...

Compromise means no firings of any great magnitude starting january 8. january 8, that's the first company reports. there will be a foot race to fire. who can fire the most? who saw the recession coming? and i think that compromise, which i believe the president is actually offering, avoids those firings. avoids the big spending problems that you're going to see. there's no valentine's day. there's no easter. there's no big spending days coming if you go through and don't compromise. >> here's what i think is going on in part, grover. the president is being as aggressive as he is with this ini...

That extends lower tax rates for the wealthy in particular. that comes as top republicans in the senate draws a line in the sand saying political ideology cannot rule the negotiations. >> the only balanced approach is one that includes real and lasting reforms. so republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone, we've been clear about what we'll do and what we won't, and yet we remain at an impasse. leading us to why ask why? because a vocal minority on the hard left continues to argue from the leaders of their party from the president on down that democrats in washington should do absolutely...

Clock showing how much debt we are acquiring and not too far from that, how much we have add since the republican national convention started, you get a sense of the urge answer of our spending problems and the urge answer of addressing it. this has been the backdrop of the theme of the convention: what we owe, what you owe. republicans hope that it resonates back home that is your visa bill. and we were nowhere close to paying it and mitt romney closing the deal on how we dress it. the businessman in him will go for the ultimate hail marry pass and the ultimate nerdy issue is the issue of the...