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Pandora's box of talking about social security reforms. i'm all for it. i think the program is really broken. i think these long-term liabilities are a big, big problem. and congratulations to the president for really taking the entitlement problem serious. >> that's why progressives are spitting nail this is week because they don't want a democratic president to be the one putting entitlement changes into a budget proposal. >> yeah, they don't want any of that going on, ever it seems. but also there were some republicans who said, he's attacking seniors. i mean, they are going to demagogue. i...

Forget the politics. this is about the next generation. >> this is why i've always liked scarborough because i tell you, he's been absolutely consistent here. michael feldman, let me get back to the politics. hard time getting their usual act together which is they support entitlement reform. that's the position of the party. save money on government spending, especially so-called entitlements. look for ways to save the money. be tough if you have to be. the president basically joined them the other day with his budget saying, okay, now pony up on the revenue side. how does obama get them to p...

Indexes based on a more accurate measure of inflation. >> is there anything in the bill as far as taxes go that you could agree with, that you could concede is a good idea? >> again, i think the accurate measure of inflation, not just for social security but across all federal programs and our tax code, it's appropriate. that means about a three to one ratio in terms. saves and the spending side. >> his supporters, they aren't happy with him that he's agreed -- or at the least his budget proposal he would go along with a changed cpi. the people who don't agree don't say their methodology is in...

Indexes based on a more accurate measure of inflation. >> is there anything in the bill as far as taxes go that you could agree with, that you could concede is a good idea? >> again, i think the accurate measure of inflation, not just for social security but across all federal programs and our tax code, it's appropriate. that means about a three to one ratio in terms. saves and the spending side. >> his supporters, they aren't happy with him that he's agreed -- or at the least his budget proposal he would go along with a changed cpi. the people who don't agree don't say their methodology is in...

But, look, there's a need to deal with the spending side. we all have looked at the numbers not from us but from the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan office here on capitol hill that decides what the projections are. and they say tacks are not going to get to the level they have within the last 50 years but above that level. and spending is going to be dramatically above that. >>? terms of the tacks, let's say a family of four, they make 50 to $75,000 a year, are these taxes, with the exception if you are a smoker, are the tacks going to hit you? or is it just going to be the ones, t...