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>> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half an hour, 45 minutes later. and they opened up the security door and he is in there in sunglasses, a full like workout suit. he's got his water bottles all together. and the guy is -- is ripped. i mean, he is b...

>> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half an hour, 45 minutes later. and they opened up the security door and he is in there in sunglasses, a full like workout suit. he's got his water bottles all together. and the guy is -- is ripped. i mean, he is b...

So he kind of spoke in metaphorical responses. often quoting well known philosophers, great literary authors, which for me was a little unusual in dealing with an inmate. >> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half an hour, 45 minutes later. and they op...

Often quoting well-known philosophers, great literary authors, which for me was a little unusual in dealing with an inmate. >> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and jacek would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half an hour, 45 minutes later. and they opened up the security door and he is in there...

Ukraine on to europe. so not only is this hiking the price of gas to the ukraine. that could disrupt supplies to countries from as far north as finland all the way down to the mediterranean. many countries, particularly in the eastern europe, get faster amounts of fuel and energy from russia. this is a very complicated spider's web financially. >> what's being discussed are sanctions. christine romans, what kind of effect can this have on russia. >> russia sells all the gas and oil. it gets paid. if they are going to have some sort of dispute on aland gas with europe or is going to shut off oi...