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Base. but it is certainly a true thing and obviously a thing that's interesting to bob mueller that a lot of what michael cohen -- what he does for trump is out of court and off the books. >> i think that that's a description that michael cohen would like. when he heard the description in the media comparing him to ray donovan, another fictional fixer, the only thing he took issue about that was that someone had described him as a less attractive version of ray donovan. so that is what he found offensive in that comparison. the trump organization is not a massive operation. it's not a massive ...

>> facing serious life threats, that's a serious problem. >> it certainly is. and i think what the senator is saying that he wants to really kind of pin down is, he lays out that out in his letter saying, look, if there truly is a security threat i understand the need for security. the question he seems to be asking is, is this in excess? not whether he should have security but does he need this 24/7 going with him on vacation to the tune of millions of dollars a year? i think he's questioning, is this too excessive? >> rene, thank you for thatup date. rene marsh reporting. gloria allred split...

Doing subpoenas to even verify that maybe nothing has been done. so people are kind of jumping to conclusions on that. it's just an investigative step. >> i was watching chuck rosenberg, former fbi official, contributor to us on with brian williams last night, and he said it would be standard practice, and i've been told this by former fbi and intelligence officials who were involved in the investigation up until the point of the transition, who said that the fbi did have the president's income tax records for sure and also were getting bank records. because that would be the first step, just ...

>> one of the central figures, as you know, in this investigation is the russian ambassador sergey kislyak. he is a hard person, a hard man to pin down, at least by the media. however, our intrepid reporter, matthew chance, found him in moscow and had a conversation with him. so listen to a moment of this. >> what about this allegation that you're a spy master, a spy recruiter -- >> nonsense. >> did you attempt to recruit any members of the trump administration? >> you should be ashamed. cnn is the company that keeps on pointing to this allegation. it's nonsense. >> u.s. security officials, in...

We just have to wait and see because this guy has been reported that more than this one time. >> eric: eboni, when we first found out that al-baghdadi was the leader of isis, he was wearing the big rolex watch. this is the guy when you take the linchpin, they came pin down, sometimes -- erin is right. even if you kill isis, they will turn the name of something else. >> and all the lone wolves inspired by isis. they won't go away, either. >> eboni: is this better than the alternative, him being out and about can like absolutely. eric, i can't say this makes me particular hopeful that the end of...