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This is all a part of the spin machine, it's not a part of a legal defense. and, no, i think it's highly doubtful that the people around the president would ever allow him to sit down with director mueller, although it's important to note that an awful lot of what's going on could be brought to closure if the president would agree to do that, as he has indicated in the past he would be willing to do, but has not been thus far. so i'm not at all optimistic that the president will sit down with him. in fact i think his lawyers would maybe even be guilty of malpractice if they allowed it because ...

Kind of photo? and they were like she was president a which are of what was going on, the policy, she wasn't caught up on it. >> it's all over television. wa? it was all over treflgs. donald trump -- i mean. >> this is what happens. she has this spin machine is an ability to try and duck is we have been. this week she hasn't been able to duck and we have been around it. >> time to draw a box around the idea of her as an adviser to the president. >> okay. >> she has no policy experience, no experience in government. she is her father's daughter. her experience is in selling real estate and hand...

Idea. the networks will donate the time if it's part of their news coverage. >> we can frame the national conversation the way we want it framed. >> how do we do that. >> he has looks pathetic. >> we ge fill in for carson. >> we tell the truth or at least our version of it and ends with an appeal to the voters, to the people that elected me we need to remind them this family perseveres. we don't back down from a fight. we don't get backed into a corner. we have a true compass and we follow it i followed mine the best i could that night and me and paul and joe, we did everything we could to sav...

Interference. >> it's also fascinating to just watch the president mimic back what he's watching on television that morning. he used exactly the same language. he called it a bombshell, which is the language that was being used in that segment on fox. and that's what's happening day in and day out with president trump. he's not going to the source of this information, he's getting it sort of chewed through this spin machine, and then he's repeating it on social media to his 45 million followers. >> forgive me, but he watches in the morning -- this is the president of the united states who has ...

Yet. i had to look it up to re-log in. but it's one thing to sign up for these big organizations, it's another thing to pay for local news and actually help your local community. >> that's extremely important. when people complain and say, i hit the pay wall, this is terrible. i have to remind them, it actually costs money to pay reporters and send them out and get them on the street and doing the digging they need to do to serve the public. >> yeah. margaret, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks. after a break, an inside peek at the white house spin machine. you saw president trump's bo...