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>> we are so good at calling out right wingers when they operate on fear. why the double standard here. >> there is no double standard. >> people died the last time this guy did his number. >> i'm sorry. >> we must also -- >> you don't have -- >> extremists. >> mayor, your thoughts. mayor, first. >> i want to say, chris, she's not on the ground in our community. yes, the chief was talking but you have to look at the whole context of what he was talking about. what we know is they did a petition. now we had westboro church here at the same site. we didn't have to do anything because three peopl...

♪ i'm coming up, so you better get this party started ♪ ♪ i'm coming up remember the days before, i don't know, are you a video game guy? >> i don't have that kind of time. i wish i did. >> i agree. do you remember the days before xbox and playstation and the video games, do you remember a pinball machine, when they were popular? you'd think pinball was about as uncontroversial as they come but not in beacon, new york, apparently. it doesn't care much for the game. >> just outside of new york, 60 miles outside of new york city, they don't allow arcade games. one guy learned that the ha...

From the white house. what do you think is going to happen this week coming up and you know, is the message that we're hearing, certainly conflicting at least from what i understand. >> well, i travel all around the country on more or less nonstop basis like a ball in a pinball machine speaking to business groups and when i asked them why don't you hire, the number one reason they say is we're afraid if we hire somebody, government will slap a new mandate on us, for taxes, new mandate health care, new mandate for this or that, build a factory now mandate for environmental problems, we're scare...

And personally, as a former regulatory attorney, i think he should recuse himself because he is self-interested here. i don't know whether he will do that or not. he's got to wrap this investigation up quickly. >> you're shaking your head. he can't get out of this, can he? >> not really. if he recuses himself, it either goes to a special prosecutor, appointed by the governor. that's out of the question, or some fancy law firm here. >> what a pinball machine. >> a law firm billing 400 bucks an hour. >> speaking of fancy law firms, zuckerman running for the senate? harold ford pulled himself out...

Really looking at it in-depth, huh? >> oh, no, well, he's looking at it quickly. because he's got to get this out of the way if he has hopes to start his campaign any time soon. >> that's also the key. we also have to remember in new york state, we have a budget deadline of april 1st. most of the states in the nation go by june 1st. here in new york, to add to the dysfunction, we have april 1st so people's taxes aren't even in in fim for them to plan the budget. it adds to the real level of concern here. we've got to get a budget hammered out. we have close to $10 billion shortfall here in new...