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People who had been in the room. we're very confident in our account which has been confirmed by other news organizations as well. i would say i don't think the president, he doesn't think about these things in the same way most presidents or politicians would. so when he's musing in a meeting about maybe we could do this, maybe we could do that, he is actually sort of spit balling. right? and a lot of the time, his aides are engaged in a process of what do we actually have to take seriously? what do we actually have to push back against? what do we have to get a cost estimate for? and he talk...

On the horizon. growth has slowed, dana. we were growing at 3% last year. we're down to about 2% this year. that's clearly the trade war with china, which is still on going. i think trump is fighting a good fight there. it has been causing some economic pain. >> dana: the white house is apparently, they're spit balling possible ideas in case they are going to have any tool at their disposal. the deputy secretary spoke to fox news earlier. let's listen to him. >> he's looking at tax cuts again. >> payroll tax cut considered? >> it' not being considered at this time. but he's looking at all opti...

The issue is he doesn't know what kind of charges could be coming. that's what's interesting is i think the inside is a mess. they don't know. they're spit balling. they hope mueller will leak. this whole investigation has been a steel trap. they've been the new england patriots. they don't leak, they don't talk, no one knows anything and everyone is hoping when the indictments come out -- because they'll come soon they're hoping the charges aren't things they can't get out of court. >> i wouldn't compare mueller to the patriots because he can't cheat. >> it doesn't count as cheating if you st...

Having, you get to see some initial reaction, some spit balling, some ideas. what the president said might not sound outrageous for people who think, how else are you going to prevent these types of mass shootings? >> you're right. we see a lot of top of the mind, shoot from the shoulder, shoot from the hip comment. there are ways administratively for the police to, in these so called red flag laws, to be able to obtain weapons temporarily from somebody who is troubled. but they have to be able to show sufficient grounds and have enough evidence that would lead them to believe that this is a n...

Some of this strategy can be planned by the impressive generals that surround trump. but often it seems to me it's spit-balling by the president himself as he does in other realms. i worry that time will eventually run out if the president talks tough and doesn't deliver like president obama did with his red line in syria. that's it's impossible to fell when he's bluffing. look, whatever the reason for kim's recent willingness to engage with south korea, here's hoping it bears fruit and fast. now, a look at that other threat isis. the most insightful yot i read about isis is graham wood's wh...