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The splinter groups. and clapper was talking about that, the homeland security, and said we couldn't tell if we were any safer now. do you believe right now -- you know, forget what either of these guys say. what do you believe in terms of the likelihood of the attack on the homeland today? >> well, i think it is higher than it was in several years because the accumulated mass of al-qaeda has been growing. but i think if anything they are now more concentrated on the region where they live. and they are succeeding in breaking states apart. libya, syria, yemen, somalia, that gives every prospec...

With the security apparatus that is being used to put it plainly, how safe you think it will be? >> we have to be very sober about the threat, there is a real threat. there will probably be some copycats, threats that may not actually be backed up by anything that we know with this al qaeda affiliated group, some of the splinter groups, the search for these potential black widows. it is a real threat there. i'm sure the international community including the united states is offering a lot of help with intelligence, intelligence is our first line of defense. are the russians willing to take tha...

They couldn't distinguish which was a group threatening the united states' interest and which was simply a violent non-state actor pursuing its own agenda. so there was a real deficit of understanding, a real lack of situational awareness. >> and all of this could have been prevented. of course it was part of a broader narrative at the time, that the core of al qaeda has been destroyed so these smaller splinter groups aren't anybody to be truly afraid of. obviously the u.s. learned that case, that that is not the case. >> you can watch "the truth about benghazi" tonight on cnn. [ male announce...

Might actually be a sign of weakness, even desperation; on the other hand there clearly are a lot of these splinter groups and they do have the ability and certainly the willingness to still attack u.s. interests. that's what this obviously is all about. >> shepard: seems to be. we'll get back to balloon boy -- or coffin guy in just a moment. balloon boy was more interesting. >> because we saw it the whole time. >> shepard: today it's coffin guy. maybe there's video of coffin guy getting out of coffin. we'll have more on the threat and the homeland security law at the center for national polic...

Criticism on his stance on counter terrorism, he made a speech to thursday and called for an end to a climate of perpetual war that we have had since 9/11. joining me is major general bob sales and fox news military analyst. as they say, general, the conflicts we are involved with, this is not your first rodeo. you have seen a lot of this. the president hasn't served, but he has had a chance -- it is not only overseas in the splinter groups of al qaeda, we have boston and the streets of of the u.k -- do you take his comments of wanting to revert back to a pre-9/11 as suggesting that our missio...