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President trump's rhetoric out because as you know, he talks a very big game. he gets you and i and the news world all worked up. but wall street basically says, i'll show up when policy is put in place because time and time again, he says something over the top, and then you see mick mulvaney, well, not exactly. and steve mnuchin, not quite. they're saying, let's see what actually happens. >> because you are just back from the border where you did extraordinary work and because federal judges and the president should know this -- his sister is a senior federal judge. federal judges have broad...

Supporters are trying to bait us to suspend due process for undocumented people in this country. because if you are going to suspend due process for undocumented people, what else is next. >> i don't think it is right to suspend due process but i'm trying to explain why the president will make this argument. >> do you think that is a sane and sound and feasible argument in. >> with his voters, they will hear that argument. >> it is t has done damage as christen said -- republicans who used to care about the constitution and the rule of law have moved away from that and that is a terrible thing...

Center, and at that center, we know that other children and parents were separated. i never knew if this little girl and her mother would be. when they were taken away, we really had no idea about that, but at that time, it was happening with many other children and their parents. >> so, some families were being split up, but according to the government and the child's father, this particular mother and child were not separated. joining me now in an exclusive interview about the backlash to the cover is "time" magazine's editor in chief edward felsenthal. thank you for being here. >> sure. >> ...

So the question deserves an answer. >> absolutely. >> don't be surprised when people are talking about it. >> nice when questions get answers. it's a nice change. >> thank you. breaking news. more chaos on the border. e-mails obtained by cnn suggest president trump's zero tolerance policy may be effectively on hold despite what the administration says publicly. that as the president himself admitted today families could still be separated. >> i signed a good executive order yesterday, but that's only limited, no matter how you cut it. it leads to separation ultimately. >> with no clear plan to...

My journey." dahlia says she did not know that she might be separated from her son once she is taken into custody in the united states. but she says, "i have nothing left in honduras." the families are loaded up and taken away unsure of what happens next. and what happens next is still very much up in the air, especially for the two adult women and their children. what happens to them, whether or not they'll be split up, is unclear. the fact of the matter is throughout all of the process, it has been rather uneven and arbitrary. not everyone is being prosecuted and separated. federal officials...