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Including the impeachment hearings that the judiciary committee will move on to next week, this is all -- you've got to play this. if i were donald trump, i would be playing this totally differently. but but if you don't show up and defend yourself, then you're allowing people like matt gates and jim jordan to defend you and they are the chest thumpers and the hand wavers and they are not going to be the people who will be persuading the audience that you need in the election to come your way. all -- >> you can't complain when you get two bites at the apple and you refuse to take it. thank you...

You what noted on elevating of the conversation. the other part of this, of course, a discussion around rex tillerson. and i just can't help but think if i'm taking this broadly. doing a little on the spot analysis, there was no ringing endorsement of rex tillerson. fair to say. she noted the secretary of state is still the secretary of state. she noted that the president noted that the secretary of state is still the secretary of state. and said that essentially the president, if he doesn't have confidence wouldn't have him in the job. it's a little of a round-about way saying the secretary's...