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Trusted voices to talk to their neighbors, whether it's firefighters or pastors, or neighbors going around talking to folks about the vaccine, members of their own community or terms, i think that approach of doing community outreach on a very, very personal basis is going to be more effective than getting to people at like a national platform. >> ed, my question to you is the unvaccinated suffering from covid are also obviously getting a lot of disinformation, relying on some sort of disinformation, so who, or where are they getting this information that they're so vehemently sticking to?

Because of us, social media platforms where people were able to share the information. i think what's sad here, mika, you have -- with the obama administration with the biden administration you had the chance to hit is reset button with the white house and silicone valley and now they're going to defcon one in terms of going after one another. i'm not sure how productive that is for either side. i'm not sure it's productive for the administration and facebook to have this debate. >> it's jonathan lemire. this idea that was a pretty powerful off the cuff statement from the president on friday a...

>> unfortunately many sources. news, social media, we look at what our friends and family are doing. we have a large number of systems that allow the information to spread easily across these networks. and this problem, i think, has become worse over the last year and a half. a lot of people who are trying to get vaccinate rates up say that people's beliefs are more entrenched than a year and a half ago and it takes experience with the virus in your own local community, it takes seeing your loved ones dying around you to change people's minds and often that's too late. >> thank you so much. we...

Is much more serious than they're taking. the problem is, what the president is being accused of cheating in the election. if you have one county cheat in the election, letting voters decide is not a remedy. >> ian, thank you very much. kelly, thank you as well. geoff bennett and peter baker, we appreciate it still ahead -- elizabeth warren's retreat from medicare for all. has it cost her the race? and the new fight against deep fakes, bogus videos that spread information. years after her name was weaponized by the president and his allies, lisa page has broken her silence. whether you'r...

Reasons why mueller's investigation has to continue and why our investigation has to continue. >> let me ask you about facebook. do you think they have been truthful and forthcoming? >> i don't think facebook has been fully forthcoming. i called out facebook back in december of '16. in the spring of '17, i questioned microtargeting and the use of this really sketchy firm, cambridge analytica. early on for most of 2017, they blew that off. they then during the summer acknowledged that there was paid advertising, but more importantly that there were a number of russian accounts that were fake ac...