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They've been talking about be this as if it was an isolated incident in terms of what was going on. remember, you know, john kelly is a marine. he comes in wanting to instill discipline and processes and systems to the white house. and it is a dysfunctional wi organization with a lot of brief floating electrons. this is probably one of about a million things he's handling. it's the most complexing and unbelievably difficult problems he's trying to handle. so, again, that's not an excuse but it's one of those kind of things where as a military guy, you had a staff security officer, the white ho...

Pulled away. i'll never forget when he touched me under the table, grabbed my leg and squeezed it and said, you know, i'm going to help you. i'm going to do this for you. like he was my savior or something. at the same time, he's violating me. >> i was lucky enough to have an adviser or mentor who never expressed romantic or sexual interest on me. we were working on spread sheets. we were sitting side by side. at the end of that, he stood up and pulled out his erect penis, genitalia. it was uncomfortable. it was unfair, but it happened. it wasn't the last time something like that would happen....

Mentor who had never expressed any romantic or sexual interest in me, and we were literally working on spread sheets, the least sexy thing in the world. i remember we were side by side in front of the computer, and in the end, he stood up and pulled out his erect genitalia, pulled out the erect penis, right in eyesight, it was uncomfortable, unfair, but it happened, and it was not the last time something like that would happen. >> when he did that, i felt disgusted. >> demoralized and disrespected, like i didn't have worth as a woman in business. >> like all my accomplishments, i already raise...

>> hold on. >> i know. get your ovaltine decoder out. what was he saying there? was he saying barack obama behind the protests? >> president sitting up the street here micromanaging protest. he's got spread sheets and color coded maps. president obama is making sure his successor doesn't get off to a successful start, at least that's the view. >> as far as the leaking goes, yes. you always have elements. you had clinton's people leaking about bush. i say clinton's people. people antagonistic. >> toward a more clintonian view. >> entire four but this happens every four years. that's how washing...

Costs to register for a new boy scout in the 1999, the year that donald trump's son turned 11, age of entering into the boy scout. i would never have found that out or it would taken weeks of research. >> before i let you go, your handwritten ledger is infamous of dc circle, do you not have spread sheets? >> yes, i do have it. i keep it online. i was afraid that if i spill coffee, i would ruined three months of work. nothing looks as good as writing it out on my hand. >> thank you very much for being with us as we wrap up our hour here on nbc live from warren, michigan. a quick look from today...