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That should have -- about 30 or 40 people should have had access to that decision. just that many. >> and the contractors that worked in the government, wouldn't come man the salaries, they get a phenomenal amount of money as contractors. paying a premium for them and we don't even know who they are. there are just thousands of these people. >> look, we've had notorious spy cases from people who lived in the government. pollard worked in the navy, w k walker for the fbi. a lot of notorious spy cases of people who worked for the government. not suggesting it is one or the another. but there is ...

But this obviously started with putin. >> well, think of the spy cases in the past. ames the robert hanson spy cases. spying for the russians seems to be something that will always be with us. it's down here while relations are up here. >> fascinating stuff. >> yeah. >> we just love the fact -- this is a manchurian candidate kind of thing. >> they would get u.s. citizenship, get married, and one government official told me yesterday it's possible that in some cases their children did not know that mommy and daddy were russian spies. >> think about the family relationships. to be continued. tha...