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>> did he ever deflate a ball? >> i don't know i'll have to ask. i think most people see tom brady as the representative of the nfl. you think football you can't not think tom brady. he's good enough not to get near that line of wrong. >> people say that the league had it out for tom brady. it's the opposite. the league needs tom brady. he never gets in trouble, the guy who is unbelievable on the field, outstanding off the field. >> but he has to get that close to the line. >> they looked at the report and said repeat offenders. you gave us spy gate, that matters. number two, you weren't candi...

Discipline on his son. another one for six ones after accusations of sexual misconduct. that was later parred down to four. the rice case revamped a personal conduct policy. as far as game integrity, it's not the first time new england has been found guilty of breaking rules. in 20007 head coach bill belichick were punished after videotaping in what became known as spy gate. another one targeting opposing players. assume this will be the beginning for the patriots and all eyes on them. let's go to the association round two of the nba playoffs. the warriors even up the conference finals. curry ...

Punishment is because tom and other folks in the patriots' organization may have tried to disregard some of the things that were out there. i think if they would have been more forthright whatever the level of involvement he had, possible this would have been a two game suspension. by the same token the league might have wanted six games but because kraft is a powerful owner as he is and the patriots are as powerful an organization as they are, maybe the league thought they were meeting in the middle. i think it's two games too many. >> troy vincent said this who led the investigation, there i...

Field. i think that's a totally separate discussion. >> that's the question of hero worship and what we do in society these days right, dean? >> let me say first of all, full disclosure, i'm a giant fan. i'm a diehard giant fan. >> you do need to disclose that. >> i agree. i think it's unfair. i think he should be banned for life. i think the patriots should be broken up as a team. i think they should ban the cowboys, too. >> just take them all out. >> tom brady, his legacy honestly is going to be attached to this forever. and the patriots. i think their victories we're going to look back beca...

Going to be right there no matter what now. spy-gate was already guaranteed there would be some taint on it. now this, having this on the record, the whole investigation, the way the super bowl was overshadowed a few months ago on this, when you look back on this era, there are going to be a lot of people. i'm a new england patriot fan. it crushes me to say this. most sports fans, most sports historians who look back at it will say about the new england patriots, wow, amazing achievement, how did that put that together? that was fantastic, but there was this cloud too. you can certainly make t...