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He is a grant of the fsb academy which means he went to kgb grad school. veb bank was coordination of a spy ring, that was the russian spying investigation where carter page was found by the fbi to have been essentially a willing target for those russian spies. at least he was a source of information for those russian spies who were looking for americans to give them information to help them with their spying efforts against america from their home base in new york, where they were ostensibly working for veb bank but really, they were spies. so there was the alfa bank servers communicating wit...

Unpacking. >> a lot of norms and protocolser to years are to prevent wrongdoing but also to keep people out of trouble. if you're not care wfl these meetings, they have a way of metastasizing into scandals and then revealing further scandals. this is agreeful flouting of this brings scrutiny. >> let's say, it seems to me, the best explanation is they talked business and politics. >> let's remember, too, that gorkov represents is not just any bank. >> this is not sun trust or citibank. >> it has been used in the united states and new york and its branch is an unofficial cover for spies, includi...

We get right back to the things we've talked about a lot that make people vulnerable to be recruited. need and greed. have you somebody in jared kushner who needs money. he needs money to finance his buildings. you start to see -- you were always asking the question of the why. are you starting to feel like the why might be the need for financing. >> when there is doubt, there is no doubt. we are dancing around this. absolutely, joy, you're right. what this is is a pattern is emerging here. when you have people omitting things sf 86, forget about criminality. more the pattern, pattern of decep...

Budget, the most expensive olympics ever. that financing for that construction went through veb bank at putin's direction. veb also occupies a very interesting corner of the intelligence world. veb is under sanctions by the united states government because of its links to and its facilitation of the activities of the russian government. a top executive in veb's new york office just recently this year got out of federal prison in the united states. he had been serving time in ohio after being convicted basically as serving as an undeclared russian spy while he was purporting to work for veb ban...

The top executive recently got out of prison in ohio. the charging documents against that just-released russian spy showed that one of the americans, his spy ring, try to recruit in new york to be a russian agent was trump campaign foreign policy adviser carter page. in addition to all that that we have known about veb, one of the meetings with the russian official that jared kushner didn't disclose on his application for a security clearance was a meeting he had with the head of veb who was personally installed in that position by vladimir putin. so veb, this russian bank, this putin-controll...