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The soviet union, and then, of course, disbursed from there. we don't know in what detail he has advised them of our new spying methods. so, i will tell you this. this is the thing that really bothers me more than anything, eric. it is that there is a guy and there are probably others just like snowden, who, for whatever reason, believe they have all the answers. and they believe that they can do good by bringing the united states to -- our proverbial knees by divulging to our enemies our secreteds. >> is that what he wanted to do? you may agree or disagree with ed snowedden and his methods, b...