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How am i losing to these people? >> well, that's desperate talk. senator graham is referring to carson's own account of a remarkable episode in his life that he says took place when he was 14 years old. carson has spoken openly about that incident. here he is on nbc's "meet the press". >> there was a time when i was very volatile as a teenager. i would go after people with rocks and bricks and baseball bats and hammers, and of course, many people know the story, when i was 14 and i tried to stab someone. >> they don't know, of course. and here's carson with a more vivid account of the incident...

There was a time when i was, you know, very volatile. but you know, i changed. >> when was that? >> as a teenager. i would go after people with rocks and bricks and baseball bats and hammers and of course many people know the story when i was 14 and i tried to stab someone. and you know, fortunately, you know, my life has been changed and i'm a very different person now. >> in that same interview carson compared a woman who wants to have an abortion to a slave owner. >> what if somebody has an unwanted pregnancy? should they have the right to terminate it? >> no. think about this. during slave...

Number two guy who tried to kill somebody at 14 and the number one guy is high-energy and crazy as hell. how am i losing to these people? >> well, that's desperate talk. senator graham is referring to carson's own account of a remarkable episode in his life that he says took place when he was 14 years old. carson has spoken openly about that incident. here he is on nbc's "meet the press". >> there was a time when i was very volatile as a teenager. i would go after people with rocks and bricks and baseball bats and hammers, and of course, many people know the story, when i was 14 and i tried to...

>> i would go after people with rocks and bricks and baseball bats and hammers and, of course, many people know the story when i was 14 and i tried to stab someone. and, you know, fortunately, you know, my life has been changed. i'm a very different person now. >> reporter: carson recently told erin burnett he still has a lot of fire inside of him. >> you conquered your demons but is there anything that fires you up? that young man that could do those things, that person still in there, right? >> well, i may be fired up, i may just look like i'm fired up. >> reporter: but it's the softer carso...

Carson a double digit lead in iowa. >> i'm just going to have to work a little bit harder in iowa. i was very surprised to see the numbers. >> reporter: carson, the newly minted iowa front runner, dev l derevealing his rougher edges. saying when he was a teenager. >> many people know the story when i was 14 and i tried to stab someone, and fortunately you know, my life has been changed. i'm a very different person now. >> reporter: but it's the softer carson that's winning over evangelicals. now trump is taking aim. >> i'm pes pa tier yan. that's down the middle. seventh dayed a venntist, i do...