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Are but this is also what i don't doubt, i don't doubt that that phone call was made to ms. mills saying don't send ms. lamb before congress she's not going to make a good witness and i don't doubt there is a transcript from any interviews. if you're going to writhe a report and write with a report with specificity, you have to site the transcript. i can't tell you a single question asked of a single arb witness because there is no transcript. my point is not that the arb did a bad job of a good job, my point is from the standpoint of a serious investigation, it was an inadequate job and i wan...

Person, and i have no doubt that mr. mullen and mr. pickering both are. but this is also what i don't doubt. i don't doubt that that phone call was made to miss mills saying don't send charlene lamb before congress, she's not going to make a good witness. and i don't doubt that there's not a transcript from any of the a.r.b. interviews, and you may say why does that matter? if you're going to write a report and you want to write a report with specificity and particularity, you have to cite the transcript. and i can't tell you a single question that was asked of a single a.r.b. witness because ...

That was don draper. >> okay. joe, jump in. >> well we'll continue to debate the end. but how does "mad men" stack up with other series in tv history, most recently i think safe to say the new golden age of television over the past decade. >> it's up there. i think it would be in the top ten, but i think for a specific reason. i mean, i think sopranos is the best series of all time and this certainly built off of the foundation of the sopranos. and coming up with a show that had complex story telling that had an anti-hero, that told the story in a novel list tick style. and it was really becam...

Right now. so it's -- that's not zero. >> it's not zero. and that's got to be encouraging for the players on the field. maurice, when you see numbers like that and robust number crunching systems in place, telling players, look, you aren't going to make it to the end of this, how does that affect morale going into the field? >> to be honest, you can use it just as motivation. at the end of the day, that stuff we know is going to go on people are going to label you as underdogs. the game isn't. you have to go out there every day and compete. when the final whist cell blown, that's when you know...

2011, kingston has taken official trips to four continents. the trips entitle him to a generous per diem allowance. sometimes hundreds of dollars a day. the total in per diems in the past three years on all this trips, more than $24,000. free lunches, perhaps not. but, again, paid for by the american taxpayer. >> i've always worked 6 60 or 7 hour workweek. >> a hardworking guy. all right. when we come back, we'll look at the all-time biggest scandals and ask, how does chris christie's bridge-gate stack up in the tournament of corruption? straight ahead. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from ...