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Side with president trump and yet he's getting much more criticism than they ever did. howie: the communication screw-up with nikki haley going on sunday saying there will be more sanctions on moscow, no sanctions announce, does that remind you of the kind of problems that you or any secretary faced in terms of getting everyone on the same page with the president's message? >> well, sure, when you have a big decision coming down there's a lot of parties involved in this case you have probably ambassador haley, you the folks, state department, national security, defense department, treasury, al...

That north korea has halted its nuclear program for these talks to happen? >> well we'll be able to know whether they have not tested. of course there is still working on calculations and all kind of things they may have learned in the previous six tests. but the point is there is different ways to go at these things. we could have had long detailed negotiations at staff level. or question start like this with the president meeting. as everybody said this is high risk. but the most likely outcome of this is seems to me is a photo op in which he says, okay. we're going to keep the pressure on. ...

Be unraveling, a waund source is saying that, quote, something is very wrong. and here to discuss is ryan cillizza, and so does this chaos feelle any different than the rest to you? >> well, it feels like the second major cycle of the white house upheaval. there are is always a low level upheaval in the white house, but this is feeling like last july when anthony scaramucci famously self-destructed which led to reince priebus leaving and steve bannon leaving and the top echelon of the white house was rejigger and lot of the early wars were sort of settled down a little bit with the new chief o...

Well in the military don't always translate in the same way politically, barbara. >> reporter: well, they don't. you know, and we all know that president trump likes to have generals around him. he talks about it. so he's got kelly, he's got mattis, two former four star marines, very similar in many respects. they speak bluntly in the marine corps as a four star, that is celebrated, not maybe the best route in a political environment. four star generals are very used to having everybody salute smartly, agree with what they want to do, carry out their orders on a staff level, and in turn up the...

Supporting one candidate or another. this is not a crime. they committed an act of politics. that's all this is. that the role of the political parties is simply to put forward the best most electable candidate. that's their job. it's okay to weigh in and endorse or not. the job is not to be switzerland. that's been my view. that said, again, as republican this is kind of fun to watch. i don't think it amounts to a whole lot. the democrats will have to sort it out on their own. we'll see what they do. i think political parties should weigh in from time to time. >> jen, what might be the prevai...