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I think that mueller will be looking at the, his financial -- >> if donald trump approved a letter that said the reason he is firing comey was to be dealing with the russian matter, would you consider that obstruction? if that was the reason he was firing? he didn't send but he approved that letter. >> yes. i hear there's a letter out there that may go further to proving obstruction. he said it was because of russia. i don't know if that amounts to it. >> it would be pretty close -- >> how about say in an interview? >> speaking of interviews and stage craft. hillary clinton has had a couple of...

President can rebuild the dialogue with black america unless or until he apologizes for the birtherism? >> i think it will take long for him to do it. he would have to send a signal. whether he sends it by an apology. it will take more than words. this is not just a stage. we look at not tonight words of a leader, we look at the actions of a leader. so shutting down the voter integrity/fraud commission, which is a bogus commission, not retreating on mass incarceration, changing policies to me would be far more important than any specific words or any stage craft of an apology. >> do you think ...

Jared kushner wants to use what's the right one? because it sounds like collusion to me. what is that act? that was described? the second thing -- i don't want to get ahead of my skis we want to know the full disclosure what he said when we get a chance. but when he said very carefully in the statementdy not rely on russian funding for businesses, that was very striking to me. because rely is a very strong word thap that suggests he is dependent on them. but he have business contacts with russians? did he have investments with russians? that sentence left it open. we simply don't know the actu...

>> jeremy, were you surprised as one who has been around washington a along time as the stage craft of it? someone pointed out the new leader of ireland was not afraided a lectern like that when he came out to meet with reporters and used a very ram shackle micron stand. the marine opens the door the president's son-in-law comes out at a very formal. there is nothing ambiguous about that back drop. >> no question had he had full backing and support of the white house both literally and figure testifily. . he did a good day from the perspective of legal team they controlled the narrative wrote ...

But when he said very carefully in that statement i did not rely on russian funding for my businesses, that was very striking to me. because rely is a very strong word. that suggests that he's dependent on them. but did he have business contacts with russians? did he have investments with russians? that sentence left it open. we simply don't know the actual business operations that he had with russian investors. >> jeremy, were you surprised as someone who has been around washington a long time at the stage craft of it? someone pointed out today the new leader of ireland was not afforded a lec...