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Amazon.com. here now with three secrets for winning over angels is david s. rose the chairman and ceo of gust, which operates a deliberative platform for early stage equity investing and he is a founder of new york angels. he's also the author of the new book "angel investing: the gust guide to making money and having fun investing in start-ups." what more could you want besides making money and having fun at the same time. >> that's the goal. >> you've been doing this for a long time. you see so many pitches. and there's something about the successful ones that pique your interest that a lot ...

And testified before congress that shows small businesses will suffer major job losses. david rose is chairman and ceo of a collaborative platform for early stage equity and gene marks is president of the marks group and columnist for the morning times. great to see you all. there was so much talk about what will happen if we hit this point and now we have hit it. so, steven, you've written a lot about job losses because of the sequester. now that we're there, are you seeing anything happen? >> well, you have to look in several different places. many of these job losses will come later in the ...