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Russian army's mounting in the east. i don't see them as being anything particularly strategic in that particular sense. more about helping out the russian army in the east. >> let's talk about the battlefield, that offensive in the east. i was just reading the uk defense intelligence, just in the last few minutes, that says despite struggling to break through, that russia is highly likely, intends to proceed, it says, to kramatorsk, as you can see there, and donetsk. what do you make of this strategy here? because it seems like it's being used as a staging point, isn't it? >> yeah, certainly ...