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>> actually this is a huge thing in the grand stweep of it. one of the reasons i asked first to start with it, because this is indicative of how shameless everybody is, it's indicative of how much donald trump corrupts everybody that's close to him, it doesn't matter, press spokesmen leave and say i lied for the president, but my job is to lie to the president, telling harvard students, my job, whatever the president wants to hear, my job is to lie for presidents. have you four star general, great men that go out and actually don't even condemn the president's shabby treatment of a gold star w...

Job that comes with the territory. and that's a part of what being the press secretary is all about. that's why i think so many people were taken aback when sarah sanders noted that it was unwise to engage in a debate with a four star general that is actually the point of the white house briefing is to make sure that the boss of all of the four star generals in this country are -- is held accountable and is subjected to questioning. >> yeah. we have a democratic republican in this country and civilian rule. nothing to sneeze at. i agree with you. that's sort of the point. josh earnest, thanks ...

They are very dangerous. they are called advise and assist. when you're on the ground, there is a danger. dealing with an enemy in close quarters as these troops had to suffer through. another thing that happened that i want your take o. spider, let me play this sound from the press secretary about what's the right thing to do as far as a general. >> if you want to get into a debate with a four star marine general, i think that's something highly inappropriate. >> now, both of you have told me this different ways but i always dismissed it as seeking favor. do you think it is improper to get in...

He fell into the muck in ways that certainly damaged his reputation and further undermined that of the white house. and then when the white house comes in and says who are you going to believe, this video or general kelly? you've got to go with general kelly. i mean, that just -- it just leaves a bad taste. >> well, general kelly and every one says they have the utmost respect. he is a gold star family. he lost his son in afghanistan and everyone feels for him. but now he is in the political realm, and he is not on the battlefield. he's not, you know, leading -- heading troops or operations. h...

Four star general gets into political life and takes on a political job, he becomes fair game in terms of talking about politic is. i will say i was really, really moved by general kelly's speech and his remarks. he talked about -- he got really emotionally. why is my son back there. it was totally moving and at the end, he completely ruined it by attacking congresswoman wilson. it was unnecessary if he just left it where it was. everybody would have said wow, this guy is -- he's a very, serious man who's you know help us. he totally ruined everything good that he said about that sfee speech. ...