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Another one not knowing that he was an atf agent. and that's where et all went bad for me. for the final transaction, he met the man in the parking lot of a department store. >> i didn't get two feet from my vehicle and the next thing i knew, they were all surrounding me with 30 guns. it was a different day, that's for sure. >> weren't you afraid. >> to be honest with you, until i got arrested, the thought never crossed my mind. he said he was into going to the range and liked the tar get practice a lot. i screwed up. >> kerry says working at the

Killed. >> they're not picking up prisoners anymore. when they identify a tar get, the target is droned. there's no terrorists left to interrogate. >> what's the moral equivalency there? how do you have moral authority when innocent civilians are killed by drones? >> now, the appropriate response is twofold. first, as a waysic patter of both moral law and presence pl, killing enemies in combat is sometimes permissible. torturing them, however, never is. the prohibition on torture is categorical. torture ok ewe pies a essential moral category of taboo. the second is more or less the same one i ...

Challenge that we face here, the articleny field manual is established basis to use for interrogations. we, cia, are not in the detention program. we are not con testimony plating at all getting back into the tension program using any of those eits. so i defer to the policymakers in future times when there is going to be the need to be able to ensure that this country stays safe if we face some other type of cry sisz. >> i defer to the policymakers, means if they want to do this again, they know our number. we know how to do this stuff. joining us now is ali sufan, a former f.b.i. special agen...

Stays safe if we face some other type of cry sisz. >> i defer to the policymakers, means if they want to do this again, they know our number. we know how to do this stuff. joining us now is ali sufan, a former f.b.i. special agent. he's the author of the black banners, the inside story of e 9 9/11 and the war against al-qaida. i have to just ask you as somebody who is the initial interrogator of the first al-qaida tar get, your story and that piz e prisoner are a big part of just what was presented out by the senate sbel jensz committee. did they get it right from your perspective? and how did...

So far they have not been asked the most pressing question about new plans revealed yesterday to tar get and kill a u.s. citizen believed to be planning attacks on americans. u.s. military sources tell us they are frustrated, however, and believe yesterday's leak likely tipped the suspected american terrorist. these sources think the american target will go to ground and the opportunity to kill him will likely be lost. u.s. officials confirm to fox news that the suspected terrorist came on to their radar several months ago. debates at the highest level, including the white house, whether it is...