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President's demeanor when he shared this information with you? >> yes. he was very upset. i thought he was bad at english. >> big picture, as someone who has been through a white house when there's been a criminal probe and impeachment, different factual allegations, but what do you see in today's battles at the white house when we see mulvaney and the lawyers fighting, we see bolton looking to testify, what jumps out to you, big picture given the unique experience you have? >> well, one point that i would make is that i was a senior adviser to president clinton. my title was assistant to the ...

Disturbing material that would come from his client solomon. >> there's very disturbing details that are about to come out in reporting by john solomon and i think once those details come out i think there will have to be a full-fledged criminal investigation. >> wow, full fledged. sounds like he has the inside scoop on what his own client is writing. fox news segment was touting the piece i just mentioned that oh, so understated headline that reads like info wars fan fiction, the one about the ukrainian nightmare and reviving of a probe. step one, have your lawyer hype the piece on hanity, li...

Therefore congress is only on the hold him accountable. we need to know all the facts and information, so they can't just not give us the information. >> what if he gives you something but says only you guys get it? >> i think if it's classified, i can see why that should not be shared. but i don't see what the principal is that you give congress information that is potentially alarming and then we can't share that with the american people. i don't think that would be tenable. >> the regs are great. the require irony of irony these were written by clinton folks in 1999 in reaction to what happ...

Indict a sitting president. we need to know all the facts and information, so they can't just not give us the information. >> what if he gives you something but says only you guys get it? >> i think if it's classified, i can see why that should not be shared. but i don't see what the principal is that you give congress information that is potentially alarming and then we can't share that with the american people. i don't think that would be tenable. >> the regs are great. these were written by clinton folks in 1999 in reaction to what happened during the starr probe. once the statute ran, they...

Let the special counsel do the job that he thinks needs to be done. keep your mouth shut, stay on task, and if you're a target, you're a target. if you're not, you stay on task and do your job. i don't think the president should be talking about it. i don't think roger stone should be talking as much about it. and that would be the advice i was given. be giving to anybody. >> building on that, sir, i want to for our viewers recollect, these probes happen, and they don't always mean anything bad is found out about the president. the starr probe is widely debated, what people think about that wi...