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>> that was before the second debate and trump had never debated one-on-one before 2020 general election in the 2016 general election. i thought he would be very confused of where to walk around on stage -- >> which he was. . >> i tried to get in her face a little bit, in her peripheral vision. you hear people like -- who are in the process, and they're better than a thing. you tell me to test her for arm and i test her four arm. you want them to think through how they want to say something. you're not giving them program lines, they're not just regurgitating something that they have memorized...

>> i do to become the shiny object it was that what you people are not really contender with each other start debating before we've seen the actual proceeds contender and the current incumbent president stand up and take on that only members of his own party not saying he doesn't get the primary nomination, but getting those reps that robert f kenned jr. told me about. i think it's important to the current president, and then hav him take ron desantis, or trump or whoever that he would take o hunger i think is really important because if you think it is an also-ran position and is gavin newsom...

Contest, and the labour party leadership contest we had done as well, which was essentially that the subjects will be determined by the invited audience. they would kick off with questions that would determine the main topic, and then i would follow up with supplementaries. each candidate would get an opportunity to answer each question, but we would take it in turns to give them the first go, and then after that it was basically free debate. they were free to chime in. and it took them a little while. i mean, it was interesting. they did start debating, but it took them a little while to get ...

The cost—of—living crisis, too. all of these programmes try to tease out policy details but there are different ways going around that. help me understand how you settled on the format that you went for. well, the format was very much based on what we had done before in 2019, when we did that conservative leadership contest, and the labour party leadership contest we had done, as well, which was essentially that the subjects will be determined by the invited audience. they would kick off with questions that would determine the main topic and then i would follow up with supplementaries. eac...

Contest, and the labour party leadership contest we had done, as well, which was essentially that the subjects will be determined by the invited audience. they would kick off with questions that would determine the main topic and then i would follow up with supplementaries. each candidate would get an opportunity to answer each question, but we would take it in turns to give them the first go, and then after that it was basically free debate. they were free to chime in, and it took them a little while. i mean, it was interesting. they did start debating, but it took them a little while to get ...