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Listen to what he said. >> you can't spend money on programs just because they sound good. and meals on wheels sounds great. again, that's a state decision to fund that particular portion. to take the federal money and give it to the states and say, look, we want to give you money for programs that don't work. i can't defend that anymore. >> so then the national office for meals on wheels responded, and here is what they tweeted. they said, meals on wheels is a proven public/private partnership that effectively meets seniors' needs. that's what you said. and then they include the stats about h...

Will come from the foreign aid budget which estate rex tillerson said is just fine. >> the level of spending the state department has been undertaking in the past, particularly this past year, it's sadly not sustainable. i am confident with the input of the men and women, we are going to construct a way forward that allows us to be more effective, more efficient and be able to do a lot with fewer dollars. >> environmental protection agency will be cut 31% and lose more than 3,000 jobs. hhs will be scaled back nearly 18% while housing and urban development will lose $6 billion, including commun...

But i think a lot of the budget which maybe pleased his base is dead among republicans right now. >> that meals on wheels cut really resonated online and social media yesterday with people picking it apart. here is budget director mick mulvaney explaining and justifying the cut. >> you can't spend money on programs because they sound good. meals on wheels sounds great. a state decision to fund that particular portion. take the federal money to give it to the states and say we give you money for programs that don't work. i can't defend that anymore. >> congress handles budgets. what does this t...

There's no way to take and buffer that type of cut, especially when programs are struggling to meet the needs at their door right now. >> you won't be as effective and affects people's lives. talking about people and their lives. white house budget director mike mulvaney asked about the cuts to meals on wheels. listen to what he said. >> can't spend money on programs just because they stand good. again it's state decision to fund the portion. take the federal money and give to the states for programs that don't work. can't defend that anymore. >> national office responded. meals on wheels is p...

Programs just because they sound good. and great, meals on wheels sounds great, a state decision to fund that particular portion, to take the federal money and give it to the states and say look, we want to give you money for programs that don't work, i can't defend that anymore. >> and in fact, he even suggested that aftercool programs that feed children, hungry children do not show any effect, that he can go to somebody who is paying their tax dollars and say your money is being well spent. your reaction to that? >> i think if you go, he talked about single mothers. if you go to any single m...