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On wheels. >> we can't spend monoprograms because they sound good. it sounds great and that's a state decision to fund that particular thing, but to take the federal money and say we want to give you money for programs that don't work. we cannot defend that. >> that's just a dream clip for a strategist who wants to encapsulate the republican attitudes towards people in need. >> let's not mince words. this draconian trump republican budget will not only make our fellow americans hungrier, sicker, and in many cases more ignorant when you see the cuts to pbs and others, this will be responsible f...

Agencies to boost military spending hitting hard, social services like after school programs for children and programs that feed the elderly. >> meals on wheels sounds great. that's a state decision to take the federal money and give it to the states. we want to give you money for programs that don't work. i can't defend that anymore. it's a wonderful program. it's one i would never vote to cut even one dollar. >> the white house also facing another sobering reality. the gop's health care bill may fall short of the votes needed to pass in the house. they now have 21 republicans saying they wil...

Total. and matt, a cut to the $3 billion community block grant cuts. one of the things the community block grant does is that it staf which goes to fund programs like meals on wheels. make mulvaney, the budget director says he can't burden taxpayers with that sort of spending. listen. >> we can't do that anymore. we can spend money on programs just because they sound good. meals on wheels sounds great. a state decision to find that particular portion, to take the federal money and give it to the states and say, we want to give you money for programs that don't work. i can defend that anymore. ...

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>> meals on wheels sounds great. again, that's a state decision to fund that particular portion. to take the federal money and give it to the states and say, look, we want to give you money for programs that don't work. i think it's probably one of the most compassionate things we can do to -- >> reporter: to cut programs that help the elderly and kids? >> you're only focusing on half of the equation. you're focusing on recipients of the money. we're trying to focus on the recipients of the money and the folks who give us the money in the first place. >> for the record, peer-reviewed research ...