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Which is a small piece of the pie that was a state-run health care system that obamacare -- that the massachusetts health care plan was and obamacare was. they preloaded it, they had health savings. everybody got health care. you know what happened five or six years later? it was eating up every new state dollar in the state of tennessee and there was only one solution, the democrat governor of the state at that time had to turn away really hundreds of thousands of people in health care to make the budget balance. and i think as you look at this long term, adding everybody in the country to a ...

>> but people have health care. why is that a bad thing? >> government run health care doesn't run as effective -- >> if you didn't have health care -- hold on a second. >> how do we long term deal with that? i was involved in ten care, a small piece of the pie, a state-run health care system that obamacare, the massachusetts health care plan that obamacare was. they preloaded it. they had lots of savings. everybody got health care, then you know what happened five or six years later? it was eating up every new state dollar in the state of tennessee. and there was only one solution. the democr...