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of an energy crisis. it seems set to get worse. what do you think it is doing to this country? well, its aim is to collapse this country and undermine the democratic project, because those in power have relegated their responsibilities, to who, we don't know. they have not maintained the power stations. they have not built the new ones that are functional. and as a result, we are where we are. the interim ceo of eskom, the state—owned energy company, said yesterday that over the coming months of winter they might get to a stage eight situation, which means there could be power cuts...

thank you very much. it's a pleasure to talk to you, mr malema. we are speaking as south africa is in the middle of an energy crisis. it seems set to get worse. what do you think it is doing to this country? well, its aim is to collapse this country and undermine the democratic project, because those in power have relegated their responsibilities, to who, we don't know. they have not maintained the power stations. they have not built the new ones that are functional. and as a result, we are where we are. the interim ceo of eskom, the state—owned energy company, said yesterday that ...

now, if the anc is faltering, who is best placed to offer an alternative? well, my guest today isjulius malema, leader of the radical populist economic freedom fighters. if malema were to get even a share of power, what would that mean for south africa? julius malema, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. thank you very much. it's a pleasure to talk to you, mr malema. we are speaking as south africa is in the middle of an energy crisis. it seems set to get worse. what do you think it is doing to this country? well, its aim is to collapse this country and undermine the democratic project, b...

who is best placed to offer an alternative? well, my guest today isjulius malema, leader of the radical populist economic freedom fighters. if malema were to get even a share of power, what would that mean for south africa? julius malema, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. thank you very much. it's a pleasure to talk to you, mr malema. we are speaking as south africa is in the middle of an energy crisis. it seems set to get worse. what do you think it is doing to this country? well, its aim is to collapse this country and undermine the democratic project, because those in power have rel...

indiana's abortion ban, the strict new law outlawing the procedure goes into effect today. cbs's adriana diaz is at one clinic which just saw it's last patient. the queen's funeral. what we're learning about the new roles for william and harry at the final goodbye. plus the prince and princess of wales greet well-wishers. cbs's charlie d'agata. >> from here, they have been told that the journey will take more than eight hours. >> o'donnell: and the unlikely friendship between her majesty and an american cowboy. this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell, reporting from the n...