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The other way. should you allow and abortion on demand if a child couldn't experience extra shooting pain? i'm going to make the argument that there is a compelling state interest that at that stage of the pregnancy child is affected that it will be excruciatingly painful. you don't have to say a word, i'm just letting everybody know that if this legislation passes, it will be challenged before yo you. you have to look at a new theory on how the state can protect the unborn. here's what i think. you will read the brief, look at the facts, and make a decision, it may to conclude that? >> senato...

My theory is let's look at it the other way, should you allow an abortion on demand of a child that can feel excruciating pain, is that what we want to be as a nation? does that run afoul of roe v. wade. i want to make the argument there is a compelling state interest at that stage of the pregnancy to protect the child against death that is going to be excruciatingly painful. you don't have to say a word. i'm just letting everybody know that if this legislation passes, it will be challenged before you, and you will have to look at a new theory of how the state could protect the unborn, and her...

An agency in working with the states to improve air, water quality. that will continue. >> all right. let's talk about another issue that's now come up. i want to get your response. oklahoma attorney general's office released e-mails between your office and the energy industry. when you served as the state's attorney general. it shows you received some talking points from the energy industry. even sent letters drafted by energy companies' lobbyists. so first of all, can yukou confm that, will you as epa administrator allow energy companies to draft policieies o regulations? >> you're making as...

That she would agree more than anyone, i can speak for her, but i imagine she would agree that because we are a nation of law, it makes it an attractive place. >> abby: ashley, this woman told her children, i have to leave. i'm going to a church and her young daughter said at least to be safe in a church. is there something to a century church? which should be safer there instead of going to a grocery store somewhere else? where does this go from here? >> that's a really good question. what she is seeking is freedom of religion. i don't think she's going to find much protection with the law an...

That touches on rollout, it wasn't clear that people with green cards would be allowed back in the country. secondly, the suggestion that they don't have a right to intervene, we have a case involving president obama where the courts in texas said that with regard to immigration, the courts do have some right to look at potential damage to state interest or private interest -- >> they don't have the right to intervene. i said they got this case exactly wrong, and in their decision, they didn't even cite the shoot that steven miller was talking about earlier that is very clear that -- >> but th...