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Saying - with us now is arizona's secretary of state who is seeking the democratic nomination for governor. what is your reaction to the new statement from donald trump about arizona's vote? >> it's just more of his false allegations about the election. it's not surprising, unfortunately, that he just continues to put out lies. >> secretary, i have to ask you, one of the -- i talked with others who were involved on the elections on state levels here. unanimously, i have heard one thing. people talking about the future. this isn't about looking to the past and 2020. this is about looking ahead....

This isn't all happening in isolated vacuum-like environments. this is tied to a strategy, namely, by people like steve bannon, even the proud boys who say, we're going local. we're going to plant and seed people who will help change and control the outcomes of elections at local, county and state levels. this kind of thing is not all isolated. by the way, there's also an interesting fbi connection. it's been glossed over in the news of the day that we have to keep up with. it's been reported by multiple news outlets that fbi agents have actually interviewed multiple gop officials, major promi...

Queens story our. that's not what's happening, obviously, but they think they have a winning issue here. so what they'll do is they'll push it up through pipelines and things like lips of tiktok account on the right that gets pushed to fox news, that gets pushed to people like donald trump and rhonda scent is on the right. the main stream right has -- some of these things. not all the way on some of the far-right thing, some of the militias that are going into these dry clean story our citron disrupt the homophobic slurs. but there's a mainstream version of this, there's a militia version of t...

Iterative process of changes in regulation that happened at local levels, state levels, and i agree with you. no one should have any illusions about this or that bill. but the only hope that i can find is something like that, which is that you have to start somewhere. and you have to -- >> that's an excellent point. yes. and i'm so glad you brought this up. it's an example of how we can change. >> yep. >> americans, when they first proposed no smoking in bars, i thought, well, that is never going to happen. >> yes! >> who would have thought that the germans -- it is not even, what, 75 plus yea...

Supports abortion for any reason. we also have a problem in the senate and at the filibuster is still there which means we need 60 votes to pass any major legislation, and i doubt thatis any major legislation, and i doubt that is going to happen any time soon, so there will be some things that will take a while to work out at the federal and state levels, but at the federal and state levels, but at least we have the opportunity to try. foralmost at least we have the opportunity to try. for almost 50 years, the courts have allowed very few limits on abortion and i think, you know, the american ...