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Democrats are sitting on the fence -- >> john let's talk turkey here. the labor unions in this country are not powerful in general elections, but they can mess with you. if you mess with them they'll mess with you. acfsme is state levels. manufacturing certainly is. i think it's a solidarity issue with labor. which is fair enough. they've said this is our fight, stick with us just be us. this is like card check. we've got to win this one. i think it's politics. >> it is politics to a certain degree. but also it's not just the labor union, it's also environmental groups human rights organizatio...

High schools. and there are a lot of jobs out there today and how do we connect people in all of baltimore to the fact that a there are great jobs in health care fwlatgreat access to apprenticeship. what we have to do is take the things that work and scale them. and then listen better to our young people and add new plays to the playbook. >> mr. secretary, great jobs this health care great jobs in pharmaceuticals, you can go down a laundry list. but in state after state, i think maryland included, when out side companies come into build factory, given tax breaks to build them and they rarely b...

To say just so they can prepare themselves, if you like, for consequences of what might happen in their country and threat state levels and so on. >> you just said torture is wrong and that we shouldn't do it. but is it effective, in your experience, is it ever effective? >> i used to conduct a lot of operations in baghdad. we used to put a bag over their head and take them for what's called tactical questioning. i think what we have to look inwardly and try to ascertain is that there is a balance between the information you're trying to get and the actions that that information will lead to. ...

Into this because it has stirred so much emotion around the country. you do have the justice department that is going to take this up. and that, also, though, might keep him from weighing in too much further because he will say that there is an active investigation and he doesn't want to comment while that's still ongoing. >> and joining me now from "washington post," julie stand by for just a second. chris, eric holder is in cleveland and is going to be talking about their investigation of the cleveland police department. previous, of course, to this horrible case involving the 12-year-old bo...

Ideal is this sense that we're in it together and big challenges like these should galvanize our country. big challenges like this should unite us around an opportunity agenda that brings us together. rather than pulling us apart. we are at our best when we rise to what the moment demands. the president within the hour speaking, of course, about the chokehold decision by the grand jury in staten island. ferguson, cleveland, staten island, only three of the fatal incidents involving white police and african-american victims in the last few months. all involved different facts, but they've com...