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Veterans faced first and foremost and can help fix and improve the system from where it is today. >> the state of alaska has 15,127 workers for the state, on the state payroll. as you just pointed out, the veterans affairs administration has 341,000 employees. 20 times more employees. it is one of the most difficult management challenges that exists in the federal government. you to manage a health care system and much, much, much more. sarah palin was able to manage those 15,000 for two years before she couldn't take it anymore. and gave up. this is an astonishing notion that an agency that n...

Reaction to the possibility of sarah palin, who would by the way be the first nonveteran in history to run the veterans administration. >> well, lawrence, first of all, thank you very much for having me. in short, i'm horrified. the v.a., the head of the v.a. is not a small post. it is a post that has $182 billion budget. it has 300,000 employees. and unfortunately, sarah palin has neither the experience nor the credibility to hold such a post. what is needed is a leader who first and foremost is a veteran and can identify with the trials and tribulations that the veterans faced first and fore...

They may be part of any deal, because they still have the tremendous sweetheart deals where they can retire at age 50 or in their early 50s with 90% salary, not something most people can do, yet they're very powerful in terms of their ability to shape whether there is going to be any reforms to that. are there any other promising options froor reform that you think need to be high on the list. >> washington is filled with very powerful special interests. unions usually have a lot of sway in the capital. right now governor brown is relying on them heavily to promote his tax campaign, but he's a...

Lands himself a state job in illinois until the media shines a spotlight on his past. guess who is collecting tax dollars again. megyn: a little bonus to boot? this is a story you have to see to belief. >> how does a guy like this get a job like that? >> in 2010 fox chicago news broke the story of the exmobster's state job an was fired for conduct unbecoming a state employee. well, guess who is back on the state payroll? ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit plus veggie nutrition new v8 v-fusion smoothie. could've had a v8.

We live here so we wanted to make it best for everyone, you know. so -- but he's not willing to do that. he's -- like i said, the 15% already, and now we're already suffering. and the state is -- and on much to that, the state is losing money. they lost money by him not continuing with the furloughs they lost. he's losing in court. so this is going to be penalties and fines the state is going to have to pay us back anyway. give us our money now. >> you are very learned woman. and i want to ask -- pam, i want to ask you this. john chang, your state controller, the person in charge of your state...