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What would you say to their argument? >> it is absolutely incorrect and completely inaccurate. the truth is that 99% of the species that have been protected under the umbrella of the endangered species act have seen some level of recovery. look at the california candor. on the brink of extinction. it's now surviving in the world. the black-footed ferret, was considered extinct, now surviving in the walleild. bald eagles and alligators, you mentioned. when we were children we did not see them. we do today because they are recovered. what this administration is doing with allies like john berosa...

That is all we know now. except we know in 2009, deeds did run for the governor of virginia and lost in the primary to terry mccall who is now the governor elect of virginia and deeds is a longtime state maker. and we don't have anything further except critical condition in the hospital and this is what we are hearing happened. that his son stabbed him and then shot himself. we will keep you posted and get more details. >> steve, thank you. rushing to the micrmicrophone t. he was well-known throughout the state despite the failed attempt at governor. this is a guy that has strong state recogni...

Means the states are not going to be allowed to decide that marriage equality doesn't apply in their state. this means that it's going to be struck down in utah and alabama. he was horrified by this prospect. i'm less horrified by the prospect, but i think he might be right, do you agree with him? >> i'm less horrified by that prospect. and he was right about lawrence, in the lawrence case you pointed out earlier, in predicting what happened today. >> do you think he is? >> i mean, if -- hypothetical case, you have a couple married in new york, moves to utah, has federal recognition and no lon...

>> do you think he is? >> i mean, if -- hypothetical case, you have a couple married in new york, moves to utah, has federal recognition and no longer state recognition. they sue. the ground that was laid today in this ruling seems to me to lay a fertile ground for their case striking down a ban on same sex marriage. >> i agree. justice kenny talked about the dignity of gay people, the dignity of their marriages and the constitutional right of gay people just like any other americans to have their marriages respected under the law. i agree with you that the same logic and same principles shoul...

For today's footnote, a reflection on marriage, that terrain where the personal is indeed political. marriage is not solely about lovely attachment. it's also about state recognition and a specific bundle of rights and privileges. but these rights are not enough to explain why people choose marriage. the desire to express love, to commit, and to consent is more deeply human than that. take black american slaves, who were legally barred from marrying. but who created their own ceremonies and adhered to their own commitments, by choosing whom to love, how to love, what to sacrifice and how long ...