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You make $10 billion, you pay a billion dollars. you make 10 billion, you pay one. everybody gets treated the same way. you get rid of the deductions. you get rid of all the loopholes. >> governor bush -- >> and i have a lot more to say about it. >> we're going to come back to you, dr. carson. governor bush you were one of the few people on the stage who advocates for common core education standards, reading and math. a lot of people on this stage vigorously oppose federal involvement in education. they say it should all be handled locally. >> president obama's secretary of education arne dunc...

Border. >> i think newt gingrich went after you. where do you stand on that now? >> this is state by state issue. the more important issue here is you've got to secure the border. the reason states had to deal with that issue back over the last decade is because the federal government failed to do their constitutional responsibility. one of the reasons donald and i had this back and forth, he thinks it's a state responsibility. he criticized texas for not securing the border. i'm like wait a minute. read that constitution. that's a federal responsible. put the personnel on the board. put the s...

Million in border security over the last -- the idea that someone would legitimately stand up and say the state of texas has failed doesn't understand this is a federal responsibility. i'm surprised anyone you included would think this is a state responsibility. it is not. this is the federal government's responsible. americans know -- when i'm in new hampshire -- last september people came up to me county attorneys and sheriffs and said thank you for r doing what you did. nobody else is addressing this issue of border security. we have known for years that there was a challenge there ask and ...

Keeper of a blog. thank you for being with us. it's good to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> how surprised were you to find the governor's office workshoping the bill with the industry but not anybody who represents environmental interests? >> i wasn't really surprised at all. what i was surprised about is they gave us the documents that showed it and didn't try to make any explanation for why they thought that was a reasonable way to do things. you know, the tomlin administration here, governor tomlin and his folks who have urged the public just to trust them and i think a lot of fo...

Here are finding it hard to trust the governor and his administration when a whole segment of society is left out of a meeting like that. >> how would you characterize the response overall to this disaster? i mean, everybody was sort of looking to the state for leadership. obviously there's local responsibility, state responsibility and there's federal responsibility. what's your overall sense of how the response has been? i have to say, looking at it from here in new york, looking at it as a national story, the confusion and the mixed messages happening that we can see from here is infuriatin...