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Receive the material, was the material in the public interest and they published it. that is protected activity. newspapers and media organizations who are about to publish material contact different side of the political campaign all the time. that happens in journalism all the time. whether or not there was communication or not prior to a publication makes no difference. the question is did they receive it, was it in the public interest and they did and they published it. that is protected activity. >> journalists are protected under the first amendment, as everyone is, but they're not prote...

It is and we need our leaders to stand up to it and the press to stand up to it and we as americans cannot be desensitized about i it. >> i want to talk to you about julian assange. the president-elect has also now appears to be siding with julian assange on the wikileaks. he said, "julian assange said a 14-year-old could have hacked podesta. why was dnc so careless? also said russians did not give him the info." what's that? >> well, i want to clear something up because a lot of people are taking this line and repeating it, that assange said that he didn't receive the information from russian...