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Justice policies. this is just one aspect of it but it's an important aspect, because what makes mbk particularly eweunique, chris, it's a community-based approach and we have been going across the country as you noted listening to what young folks have to say. >> does america put too many young men in prison? >> i don't think there's any question that we have way too many -- far too many young men who are in the criminal justice system who are otherwise disconnected from their communities because they are not in school or they are not working. so it is a problem and it's something that we can...

Those shots killed bruno, the firefighter. the officer has been cleared at this point of any wrongdoing. and another controversial confrontation in baltimore county, maryland, as police arrested two people early sunday morning. a man was videotaping the arrests, and that's when an officer confronted him, saying that he had no rights. no rights to be doing that. this incident is also still under investigation. for the legal view on all of this, i want to bring in cnn legal analyst and defense attorney, mark o'mara and heather hanson. mark, i just want to start off by asking, what exactly are ...

Can they help move this along or get veronica back to the adoptive parents? >> reporter: that's what we wanted to know. we interviewed the sheriff where veronica lives. he said if the couple as any intention of come there in the middle of the night or in the cover of darkness to get veronica, he will arrest them and charge them with kidnapping. he said he's not taking sides but he's not about to arrest dustin brown, even though there is a warrant out for his arrest in south carolina related to this custody handover. i also asked him, why can't you just get veronica and return her to the adopti...

Us. they're getting up there in age. they were trying to look for a way around it. >> let me continue the conversation, sarah gannon, thank you so much. on to those legal questions, i promise. legal expert here, attorney, dana savalos is joining me. first question, can guy couples in those states that do not recognize same-sex marriage like pennsylvania in this case, you know, can they use adoption as an option? >> well, adoption of an adult is nothing new in the legal system. adults have been adopting -- adults have been adopts each other for a long time. and male and female adoptions as ad...

Do you defend it as being constitutional when you believe it's not? and i think they have an absolute duty to enforce it if it's a law and b, several times in the past administrations democrats and have not defended statutes. >> when. >> they're in the briefs. >> which ones? >> i'm not going to bore the audience. give me one. >> let me finish. several times they've not done that and many times state at that time state statutes, and african-americans married white people in virginia that was not defended by the administration, they took no position. this is about federalism to some extent. >> t...