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Gonna go exactly to what was gonna ask, is that the seems to have been rejected fairly quickly out of hand, you regret that that's the case. you think there is more creative thinking to be had between the united states and nato? >> the rejection of this out of hand, just like the unfortunate decision by the biden administration on the more planes to ukraine, suggests timidity, suggests that the united states feels it somehow we have to avoid provoking putin. putin has been escalating massively in ukraine, for us to simply send those weapons to ukraine so they could defend themselves, is a norm...

No-fly zone. >> alex, they're just wrong, and i'm glad that president biden is showing statesmanship and restraint. he spoke to us on friday in philadelphia. and he was very clear, we are going to stand with ukraine. we have punishing economic sanctions. we're going to get them weapons, but we will not get into a shooting war with russia. that, as he put it, would be world war iii. and i just left philadelphia, being so grateful that we have a president who understands the stakes and is trying to de-escalate while standing up for the ukrainian people. >> something else that we've heard about t...

Here to react is dr. rebecca grant. thanks for being here. let me ask you that question to you somebody who is international expert. does saying what joe biden said and walking it back and standing by it, does it complicate our efforts in trying to bring this war to an end? >> well, it's too late for him to walk it back. everybody geraldo it. i'm tired of either biden or secretary blinken trying to pretend that there was some diplomatic meaning or it meant something else. we all heard what he said. but i think the real complication is that biden is all notion and no statesmanship. while they t...

Least rhetorically, butav they haven't done anything to really help. th i think,at laura , that's why the long, long phone calls between biden and xi jinping have not been publicly released. i think there's only one word used to characterize the last biden xi xi jinping phone call, which wasgp the word candid. so obviously there's not good news from the chinese. so i think lavrov is quite correct. we're seeing the formation of really a major alignmentst against us by two major powers and is statesmanship at its worst. >> and today he did talk>> briefly or mention l briefly china in relation to...

What do you make of that and the coverage of the nato summitsome and. >> yeah, it's interesting, the white house has walked back a number of joe widen's saints -- statements. yesterday it was regime change, previously he said we would respond to use of chem chemical weapons in kind, he also suggested u.s. troops might be stationed in ukraine. i think it's clear that the biden administration is seeking to escalate the conflict. you're not seeing them talking about getting all the players to the table, having negotiations, getting this horrific, unjust war that russia is perpetrating against ukr...