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>> not ruling out that you would support a tax bracket of 39% for people making more than a million dollars right now. what about the idea of this being revenue neutral right now. there are estimates that this tax cut in so far as we know what's in it, could add $1.5 trillion to the national debt. do you have a comfort level with that? >> well, first, john, we believe that it's actually going to create revenue because you're going to grow the economy and you have to look at what you do whether called static scoring or dynamic scoring. on a static scoring model it's about $1.5 trillion that wou...

>> harris: i can back to what you said, they don't necessarily need to work something out on this one. >> guy: if they can get 50 votes, though get it done and that's why mitch mcconnell is saying we fell short by one vote on health care, events can bank that we will be able to do it again, but i think that's a risk by schumer. frankly, he might be powerless. this is a reconciliation issue. less but it would make about deb is neutrality, it's really important when you look at the scores of these things, static scoring versus dynamic scoring, these are really in the weeds, sort of policy issues...

It's some of the worst map on the planet. >> herman: it's a trap by the democrats and here's why. they use a static scoring, number one. they won't use dynamic scoring. number two, you don't listen to the results of that scoring, look at the assumptions is what i'm saying. nobody is reporting on the assumptions. >> melissa: static versus dynamic, he's talking about you don't account for what comes from tax cuts. >> harris: republicans like senator lindsey graham who say we haven't seen a cbo score, it was coming out of the house, he said until we see that, i don't think we'll have it. why are ...

Expansion, for wage increases and that's how you get to the president's goal of jobs, jobs, jobs. we know it would be an important step but remember, bill, the president proposes and congress disposes. there are a lot of steps. >> bill: from your lips to art laffer's ears. he will join us next hour. that question will be posed to him. what about the fact the president suggested said his main concern wasn't an increase in the deficit. are you okay with that? >> bear in mind they call static scoring. you change a policy and they don't think it is going to change behavior. but what we know is dyn...

>> rick, please be honest. >> that doesn't -- >> hold on a second. please be honest with the viewers here. >> that's icky math. >> no, that's a premium -- >> there's a simpler way to put this. >> if they rise in one period they'rgoing up the lesser -- >> rick, rick, hold on. >> that's just not -- >> hold on a second. >> rick, that's not math i studied in my life. >> that's fuzzy math. let me put it to you a simpler way. the cbo, which republicans and democrats all agree is the gold standard in terms of -- >> i don't agree because they do static scoring. go ahead. >> okay. they said, they say a...