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Vacuum. so we see it is being filled by these groups, for example. it is not a static situation. we say we don't know who the opposition is it is different now than it was than 16 months ago. i think the risk is this gets more radicalized every day we're not involved. jenna: when it comes to the arab spring, certainly had it when it came to libya, that was one of arguments not to get involved in libya. nato went in there and things changed. is the libya mod dell something that should be applied to syria? >> certainly i think, jenna, the opposition here needs help. that's true. that doesn't mea...

Years we will see an opening of the chinese system to some considerable extent and that's what they say they want to accomplish. so we're not talking about a static situation, but it is a different society with different backgrounds and it will move to its own and not to americanisms. they have had a self government for 4,000 years, they have been in the present conditions as a state for 2,000 years. so it's not as easy to transform chinese society as it is in our country which has had much less of a negativity of the past. >> may i just ask you about the

Brave young libyans outgunned and outmanned and the in all likelihood best now is a stale mate unless we change things. >> the president stopped short and will not commit publicly yesterday in the news conference. he will take it on a case by case situation and not ruling it out or in either a. no he is assuming it is a static situation. it is not. we declare a no fly zone two weeks ago, i think the situation on the ground in the battlefield would be different today . again, the united states must lead. i think it shows if we don't lead, you get into differences of view going to various meetin...