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Responding to the president's entreaties. >> he did not want to put himself in the middle of that. he did not want to have a role in asking the attorney general to fire the special counsel, correct? >> again, i refer you to the report and the way it is characterized in the report. >> thank you. volume 2, page 85 it states that he didn't want to have the attorney general -- he didn't want to have a role in trying to fire the attorney general. so at this point i would yield back. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. mueller first let me ask unanimous consent, mr. chairman, to submit this article robe...

Mueller to testify that he did not charge an obstruction because of this long-standing justice department legal memo called the olc memo. that's important because it again shows daylight between mueller and attorney general william barr. william barr has testified there was a meeting with mueller and others and in that meeting mueller told him he did not reach a decision on obstruction because of evidence, not because of the olc opinion. final point on the exchange with congressman ratcliffe, this is essential because congressman ratcliffe got mueller to admit there is absolutely no justice de...

Meant there? >> i'll leave it as it appears in the report. >> it's fair to say the president tried to protect himself by asking staff to falsify records relevant to an ongoing investigation. >> i would say that's generally a summary. >> would you say that that action, the president tried to hamper the investigation by asking staff to falsify records relevant to your investigation. >> i'll refer you to the report if i could for review of that episode. >> thank you. also the president's attempt to get mcgahn to create a false written report were related to mr. trump's concerns about your obstruc...

Question. >> martha: chris wallace was saying while we were watching all this. it was two difference paths. they wanted him to animate the words of the report and then there was also the line nail him down with yes or no answers. in terms of the questioning. it seems like they've gone with the latter mostly, chris. >> i had to laugh a little bit when you talked about the testimony by robert mueller because testimony has to be put in quotes. it really hasn't been much testimony. frankly, i think you both have been very kind. this has been a disaster for the democrats and i think it's been a dis...

Regulations, not in the olc opinions and justice manuals and the -- nowhere do those words appear together because respectfully, director, it was not the special counsel's job to constitution klunsively determine donald trump's innocence or exonerate him. the bedrock principle of our justice system is a presumption of innocence and it exists for everyone. everyone is en titleed to it including sitting presidents. because there is a presumption of innocence prosecutors never, ever need to conclusively determine that. now, director, the special counsel applied this inverted burden of proof that ...